I believe GI Jane is one whale of a movie. The whole thing starts off as Jordan is volunteered for training she did not apply. Handed the job she sees the opportunity which otherwise she might have never had.The whole scenario changes somewhat with the Master Chief who and this is obvious is using whatever wile he can to get her to ring out. A point that many seem to have missed. In that particular environment anyone who has been there knows the drill as far as being a prisoner goes. However this scene where she is being interrogated turns into a war of wills between her and the chief. He <more>
tries to use that to break her and he only makes her stronger. There was a point of decision time where she almost did ring out but instead hangs in there. Within the time alloted the movie overall makes it and brings out a point that I have never heard commented on.A woman should have the right of choice and if she chooses to be GI Jane and proves herself which she would have to do and the movie shows that then that choice is hers and no one has the right to make it for her or to force on her standards contrary to her wishes which places her in a secondary position. A point the movie makes well.The movie depicts well the boys club and dramatizes well the ability of the human spirit to overcome. She is put down, marginalized, isolated, and challenged at every turn. It shows what some have mistaken as excessive, the haircut, but notice, after the master chief had really made her mad and determined. He did her a favor.Now of course there were other overtones but overall the movie was well acted and very enjoyable to watch. Being a former Delta Force commander I thought very close to the truth.The only real limitations on any of us is the ones we impose on ourselves!
G.I.Jane has some obvious flaws. Not the least of which is when Demi Moore walks into the mess with obviously no bra on under her white tee shirt. No self respecting female trying to get into the world of a macho, hyper-testosterone fueled job would do anything to accentuate her femininity. No makeup,no feminine underwear,nothing that makes her different than a male recruit. A fact shown to good example when Moore shaves all her hair off during a break and I give her credit for actually doing it and not faking it by wearing a wig. That takes guts. As someone who has been through something <more>
similar,I can tell you that not being wanted in a group of men elicits a type of behavior in a group mentality that would never happen if the man was alone. I really enjoyed this film despite some of its problems at suspending disbelief. For example, when the master chief is looking at the exercise where the recruits are in the rain, climbing forward on their bellies under barbed wire, he's "seeing" the action that wouldn't be possible through a scope or binoculars. Another is when each team in is the water and picked up "on the go" as the inflatable rafts rush by. Each male is given help by someone inside the raft and hoisted up inside. Yet when Moore's character turn comes, there is no help and she slips back into the water. She's unable to do it but is later criticized by the Master Chief for not being able to lift her "own body weight." Well, we don't know if that's so or not, as all the males were helped getting inside. There are other instances of such examples but the thing that makes this film work for me is I know how it feels to be unwanted and be considered incapable of doing what's considered typically a "man's job." The politics and technical mistakes aside, the real essence of the film is if a woman wants to fight for her country she should be able to.
One of the most sizzling Navy dramas I've ever seen! (by Catherine_Grace_Zeh)
G.I. JANE, in my opinion, is one of the most sizzling Navy dramas I've ever seen. If you ask me, Lieutenant O'Neil Demi Moore was, indeed, a gutsy woman. I didn't like the way she looked on the G.I. JANE movie poster, though. To me, Master Chief Urgayle Viggo Mortensen was a very strict and sort of funny guy. I laughed really hard when one of the drill sergeants yelled, "Stop fooling with your hair, O'Neil!" as well as when Senator DeHaven Anne Bancroft said, "Whoa, whoa, whoa, Mr. Hayes. If a cannibal used a knife and fork, would you call that progress, <more>
too?" Those quotes were really funny in my opinion. But the one thing that scared me was the combat violence between Lieutenant O'Neil and Master Chief Urgayle. In conclusion, I recommend this sizzling Navy drama to all you Demi Moore fans who have not seen it. When you see it, prepare to be dazzled.
OK this is going to be a bit long... but it will be good food for discussions.Yes, this movie is "Hollywood". The Plot line is predictable, but it is the concepts that the director explores along the way that make it interesting an thought-provoking, assuming you pay attention and didn't just rent it for the bang-bang, or a chance to see Demi in a wet T-shirt. Ridley make some mistakes, but he does some really good things too. Let me comment on what some other people have said, and talk about what I think Ridley does well with this film.I think Mr. Scott gets a really excellent <more>
performance from Demi. I feel this is her best film, but I haven't seen to many, because she usually gets on my nerves. However, she is believable in the role of a woman who just wants to prove to herself that she can do this. I believe her when she says she doesn't want to be a poster child for women's rights... and the Commander is right in telling her that she's gonna have to wear that hat anyway.Viggo is great too. I don't think too many people knew who he was when this movie came out, but he was even billed above Anne Bancroft. Someone said he looks embarrassed in every scene... hogwash. He looks like a very tough character in a very difficult situation. He knows that the issue is not whether a woman can make it, many can. This isn't about women's rights... this is about how men, mainly YOUNG men, relate to women in stressful situations. If all soldiers were in their late thirties, emotionally and psychologically, then the issue would be much smaller. Most of these guys are young, dumb and full of... you know the rhyme. I was there too, once upon a time. Viggo is excellent, he reacts the way many military instructors would... trying to stop the inevitable, fighting against politicians way over his head who have never been in the crap, but think they know better. Pay attention, you can just see that he respects LT O'Neil. But he believes he has to make an example out of her. Ms. Bancroft is excellent as well, some people say over the top, they obviously haven't had to deal with high level politics before. Perhaps she is a bit rough for reality, but remember, it is a movie, making a point, and being entertaining, things have to be gritty... and Senate will always be more vicious than any military training. I find her performance fun and a joy to watch.I don't know if Mr. Scott has any military training, but he does a better job of conveying the realities of it to the screen than most. Yes, the SERE segment goes farther than real SERE training would go... but not by much. Talk to someone who's been through it. It would not have been the same group of instructors... it's a very specialized field and the instructors have extensive psychological screening and training. However, I'll give that one to Ridley, he's trying not to complicate the plot, and he needs the scene with Master Chief Urgayle. BTW Women do go through SERE sometimes... and the instructors do use them against the men's emotions.As for other Militray stuff, much of the language, feelings about chain of command, frustration with training constraints and political a**-covering was /On The Spot/. I speak from 6 years of experience as an Army officer some of the stuff you see on active duty is amazing, but in the end it all balances out and the US Armed Forces are still the best in the world . Even the way Ridley has to frig with the plot to put the trainees in a an actual firefight was plausible... not possible, but plausible. Remember, it is a movie, he's got to have a real combat situation to entertain the dumber audience who just came to see the boom. But Ridley even goes far enough to give the Master Chief a chance to back out. It is a group of Navy SEAL trainees, deep into their training cycle, with a buttload of prior experience IF you pay attention you will note that one of the trainees is a US Army Ranger, one a Marine, probably from RECON, these are guys who know the job already, and this is true to reality . You are also talking about a straight forward mission facilitating extraction of US Army Rangers from the deep inland mission. Ridley even has that right, this would be a Ranger mission, and the Spec-ops community may do a joint op where the SEALS secure the sea-side extraction point.Quite frankly... the movie is better than most people could have done. Matter of fact, I think it was a tough challenge for Mr. Scott and don't think anyone could have done much better. One bad point I agree with is that artistically, the movie is shot entirely too dark.. that's about the worst thing I can say about it though. As for plot predictability... how often do you REALLY see an original plotline?One last comment. I was at the Army Officer's Advance Course when this movie came out. There was a group of Officer's that were gong to see this movie, ostensibly to have a good laugh. These were Ranger-qualified Infantry guys, a Marine officer from RECON, a couple guys going to or coming from SF training... all Type A's. The next day they weren't laughing... they just said "you know what, that wasn't half bad." That don't sound like much, but it's high praise from that group.Probably why this has such a poor rating is because it isn't Hollywood enough for the lowest-common-denominator crowd.Enjoy the film.
I ignored this on it's release and caught flashes of it during it's run on HBO, there were some exciting action sequences and amazing glimpses into the hell that SEAL training requires, but somehow I just couldnt put all the pieces together. It didnt make sense.....until now. I finally watched this movie in it's entirety last night and I am hooked. Whether the film misses the target on it's "statement" is not the point. It's just a good flick. Demi Moore pulls off the roll in convincing style and Viggo Mortenson has his best part as the Master Chief of the SEAL <more>
training unit. They have this crazy dynamic between themselves that finally unfolds at the ending, leaving you wishing for just a little more. Solid action film with a great support cast and a perfectly despicable villain played to the hilt by Anne Bancroft as a Senator who compromises GI Jane for her own political gain. Well, at least she tries. I think Demi Moore is one of the most underappreciated talents in recent memory. She has this unique combination of hardass determination and sensitivity that is rare. 9/10
Don't Listen to the Sad Armchair Warriors (by mzmorpheus09)
This is one of Ridley Scott's better films, up there with 'Alien' or 'Matchstick Men'.There's been A LOT of dissing of this film, especially by idiots that refuse to even watch it. Most of them whine and moan about how the writer David Twohy who wrote 'Pitch Black' got the terminology and endless DoD acronyms wrong. SFW. It's a fictional drama, not a documentary. You want a documentary? Watch the Hitler Channel.I used to be a wildland firefighter and, yep, I'm a split tail. I've seen fictional wildfire movies where the tanker planes fly at night <more>
and the actors sprint through fields of flaming dirt note to non-firefighters: dirt don't burn . Again, SFW. It was a movie, big deal.The No. 1 reason I like this film is Viggo Mortensen's performance. He's way better than Demi Moore, not that Demi is bad. I don't think she deserved the Razzie for this. Again, that came from misogynistic armchair warriors who are unemployed and live with Mommy. Consider the source.What this film does have is action, suspense, conflict, fast dialog, good character development -- all the stuff a movie like some horrendous Steven Segal mess is SUPPOSED to have but usually doesn't.Rent this flick, keep an open mind and enjoy the show.Also keep in mind, a very high percentage of the enlisted women who have served in the Middle East have been harassed, assaulted and raped -- by their own coworkers, not 'the enemy.' Then reconsider all these bad reviews and ask yourself what does that say?
Maybe Demi Moore does have what it takes (by SKG-2)
I fully admit I am not the biggest Demi Moore fan in the world. As a matter of fact, she's been in some of my least favorite movies of the decade A FEW GOOD MEN, INDECENT PROPOSAL, THE SCARLET LETTER, THE JUROR, STRIPTEASE , and she really hasn't been good in any of those. But she did win me over in this movie, because she lives up to her character's line, "Look, I'm not trying to make any sort of statement here." And she isn't. Instead of letting vanity get in the way, or injecting pathos, she lets her actions speak for her, just like her character does in <more>
trying to win acceptance as a SEAL. The haircut scene is a good example; though it's directed with cinematic flourish, she does it matter-of-fact.Moore's performance is one of the two performances that elevate this from your standard grunts-become-soldiers movie. The other is the riveting Viggo Mortenson as the Master Chief, who's the drill instructor. He doesn't play the role as a sadistic tyrant, but rather as a subtle manipulator who gradually recognizes Jordan O'Neill Moore is someone worth taking seriously. He also avoids going for pathos.The movie is best when it concentrates on the training. Ironically, making just a standard grunts-become-soldiers movie makes its message work, because like O'Neill's superiors, we take her seriously because she becomes no different than anyone else. The beginning is bad, and the climatic battle at the end is overblown, which weakens the movie. Still, it's worth a look, and I maintain Moore was only given a Razzie Award for this movie and performance because of her past work, and the naysayers really weren't paying attention to her performance here.
This was a true grit movie, minus Wayne. It was Demi Moore this time. Some of the 'critics' complained she was too good looking. What did that have to do with anything? She handled the part mucho convincingly, as did Mortensen as her tormentor not mentor . You knew they would eventually kiss and make up - well make up, anyway, but it was a long hard road traveled before they got there.The road was brutal and I question if beating up Moore, as Mortensen did with much vigor, would be tolerated. But, she came out bruised and smiling. In return, she got a slight smile from Mortensen.It <more>
was a fast moving moving picture with little let up in action, except for the scenes involving the brass and politicians who were as, if not more, vicious than the military. Anne Bancroft handled her role beautifully - a politician you love to hate.Jim Caviezel had a small role in this flick. Later, of course, he portrayed Jesus. In that picture he had to eliminate cussing.The star of that pic, of course, was Mel Gibson - noted anti-Semite, wife beater, and alcoholic. What a combination - Caviezel cusses, Gibson handles the rest. He and Charlie Sheen would make a good team - the Two Stooges.Thinking about the training the SEALs undergo - makes Parris Island look like Wuss City. My uncle was a D. I. there . As for me, training was a lot less rugged, in the Signal Corps, U. S. Army. I recall a corporal in charge of our unit who was chastised because one of the guys did something wrong and he made all of us do the manual of arms using our footlockers.Anyway, for exciting entertainment and - by the way no sex scenes - "G. I. Jane" is hard to beat although, of course, Moore got 'beat' during half the movie, but she prevailed.One final note. Were there no chaplains during SEAL training? I mean -- all that swearing. Sh-t!
Good, Enjoyable Entertainment with Demi Moore Showing Off Her Badass Side (by Schnayblay)
"G.I. Jane" is the story of Lieutenant Jordan O'Neill, a Naval Intelligence officer who gets chosen by a senator to be the test dummy for woman's acceptance into Military Combat. She gets put into training for the Navy SEALS, the most elite and toughest training. Now, O'Neill must prove she has what it takes to be among the best of the boys. Directed by Ridley Scott and co-written by the creator of the "Chronicles of Riddick" series, I wasn't sure what to expect. Ridley Scott is an amazing director but I didn't like "Pitch Black" that much, so <more>
I didn't know if I ended up liking this movie. But you know what? I highly enjoyed it.Demi Moore plays Lieutenant O'Neill, a tough, no-nonsense girl who just wants to get in on the action. Out of all the roles I've seen Demi Moore in, this is my favourite one yet. She's strong-willed, determined, and as the film goes on, she becomes a giant badass. If there was ever a woman's version of "The Expendables", Demi Moore would definitely be in it. She's a great character and you really want to see her succeed and kick all the guy's asses. She also gets into the best shape of her life. Even when she shaves her head, forms abs and gets totally ripped, she is still incredibly hot.Viggo Mortensen plays John, the Master Chief. No, not the one from Halo. The moment he steps on screen, you know this guy is hardcore. He's brutal, mean, and is really a dick towards O'Neill. Of course towards the end they become allies but the stuff he does to O'Neill is just terrible. You do not like this guy at all, but that just shows that Viggo Mortensen did a good job as Master Chief. Only way he could be any more badass is with an energy sword.The atmosphere in this movie is awesome. You're watching all these guys and O'Neill go through boot camp and you're just sitting there going "Yeah, I couldn't do that. That's just gross". Like there's one part where they have five minutes to eat dinner and do they get fresh food? No. They get the scraps from their lunch. So their eating like half eaten corn and weird goop that been sitting there for half a day. I have to be honest, I wouldn't survive 1 day at that place.The last 20 minutes are my least favourite part of the film. It's kind of like "Full Metal Jacket" in the way that once they leave bootcamp, the movie goes downhill. But unlike "Full Metal Jacket", the movie only goes downhill a bit. It was kind of just an excuse to make stuff blow up and have a gunfight but I'm not complaining. Got to say, Demi Moore grenading Iraqis and Aragorn sniping people is pretty cool.Overall, I highly enjoyed "G.I. Jane". I thought it was a great entertainment and Demi Moore was excellent. It's a badass military film that shows that girls really can kick ass, and I would watch this any day. Definitely a buy on Blu-Ray.